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What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:55 pm
by Hereiam
Hi all! Been lurking for awhile but finally made an account, figured I’d make a thread to try and contribute to the discussion here haha.

Like the title says, what’s something that ruins a bondage scene in a movie or TV show for you? For me, obviously it’s when the bondage is lame and unconvincing. Granted, there are scenes that produce nice visuals even if the damsel could easily escape.

Also, an obvious use of props. It’s not really a secret that a lot of times, the actress/actor isn’t truly tied up. And the ropes probably have velcro on them. The worst for me is the fake duct tape. You can always tell when it’s just sticky at the ends.

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:14 pm
by Melanie
Welcome to the forum.

I agree, the bondage and gags in most movies or shows is disappointing. However the acting is often much better than in any adult video. And this outweighs the sloppy bondage for me because I want to see the emotions of the people involved.

Indeed, the duct tape is made less sticky with powder sometimes. But this is of course understandable. You don't want to ruin the actresses' or actor's hair and avoid pain.

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:50 pm
by Hereiam
Melanie wrote: 4 years ago Welcome to the forum.

I agree, the bondage and gags in most movies or shows is disappointing. However the acting is often much better than in any adult video. And this outweighs the sloppy bondage for me because I want to see the emotions of the people involved.

Indeed, the duct tape is made less sticky with powder sometimes. But this is of course understandable. You don't want to ruin the actresses' or actor's hair and avoid pain.
Yeah, there are definite trade offs with mainstream vs commercial. I’m not a gigantic fan of commercial scenes. The bondage is usually just *too* perfect and like you said, the acting is poor.

What’s even more interesting to me is when the bondage is actually realistic. I’ve read stories about actresses who insisted they be truly tied up for their scenes.

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:50 pm
by Reidy
Any time someone is restrained by one zip tie. Feels like a waste. Also when a gag consists of one bit of cloth between the teeth.

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:52 pm
by Hereiam
Yeah those are lame. Not a fan of zip tie scenes in general.

Also, forgot to mention it in the first post, but any violence is usually a nope for me. If the damsel has any blood on her face it totally kills it for me. There are very few exceptions to this for me.

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:59 pm
by captured_prize
Reidy wrote: 4 years ago Any time someone is restrained by one zip tie. Feels like a waste. Also when a gag consists of one bit of cloth between the teeth.
I hate it when someone is cleave gagged with a thin piece of cloth, yet they act like they can't talk at all. In reality they can talk clear as day. They might as well not be gagged.

Also @Hereiam, I agree with you about seeing blood on the damsel. Total mood killer there.

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:47 pm
by Chris12
The lack of gags is a big deal breaker in bondage scenes.

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:24 pm
by Kyle
It doesn't necessarily have to be 100% realistic. It's acting, we know some things are fake. I look at it as a very low-level stunt, and anybody who knows anything about movies knows sometimes things are changed to make it safer, or less commonly, just more comfortable. But everything should be tight enough to at least make it seem plausible. If the gag is so thin it can be talked around with only minimal effect on speech, or the restraints so loose the actress has to actively hold them on, it's just hard to suspend belief at that point.

All that said, realistic, tight restraints are always a plus.

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:39 pm
by rafeylovesbonds
Hereiam wrote: 4 years ago Yeah those are lame. Not a fan of zip tie scenes in general.

Also, forgot to mention it in the first post, but any violence is usually a nope for me. If the damsel has any blood on her face it totally kills it for me. There are very few exceptions to this for me.
Good comment concerning violence @Hereiam - thanks. I would hope that all on here would agree. Having/seeing damsels tied up and gagged is one thing: hurting or abusing them in that position is another and wrong.


Rafey

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:34 am
by Melanie
Tying sb. is clearly a form violence, unless the character freely consents to get tied up but there are very few movies with consensual bondage.

I'm just wondering whether your kinks impair your judgement here. This is not a reproach, I'm just trying to understand what exactly you mean with violence. For example don't you watch movies with kidnapping or hostage scenes because there's usually all kind of violent action involved?

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:39 pm
by OldTUGger
There used to be a bondage publication, or maybe it was a website, that gave out "Loosie Awards" for bondage scenes in which the ropes had been applied to the actor/actresses so they were almost comically loose.

So, for me, loose ropes and OTM gags without stuffing are the biggest buzzkills.

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:27 pm
by Hereiam
Melanie wrote: 4 years ago Tying sb. is clearly a form violence, unless the character freely consents to get tied up but there are very few movies with consensual bondage.

I'm just wondering whether your kinks impair your judgement here. This is not a reproach, I'm just trying to understand what exactly you mean with violence. For example don't you watch movies with kidnapping or hostage scenes because there's usually all kind of violent action involved?
I mean more when a damsel is being beaten or has cuts and bruises.

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:15 pm
by Tights tights tights
What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for me is only ruined in the sence that (2 things) 1:- the tie up tecnique has not been done properly and dosn't look convincing.

2:- as I am somone who craves for gags and muffling gagged sounds.. no gag would be the wrost disappointment for me than anything!

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:55 pm
by Dpsiic
Hands tied in front is criminal as far as I am concerned, even if properly gagged and as has been discussed above the damsels rarely they, they can just reach up and remove it. Why, why, why! If you’re going to tie a girl up do it right!

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:10 pm
by captured_prize
Dpsiic wrote: 4 years ago Hands tied in front is criminal as far as I am concerned, even if properly gagged and as has been discussed above the damsels rarely they, they can just reach up and remove it. Why, why, why! If you’re going to tie a girl up do it right!
Agreed. This is why my hands are always tied behind my back when I'm bound and gagged. Don't want me reaching up to remove my gag and call for help!

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:31 am
by drawscore
Weak ties. Much of the time, you don't see the hands tied. The actor just sits there with his hands behind him, with one hand holding the opposite wrist. A skilled actor can make it look good or real, but there are others who are, shall we say, "less skilled," and you can pretty much tell that he isn't tied.

When the hands ARE shown, they can be tied parallel, or crossed. I prefer crossed.

If the "hero," or "sidekick" is to be untied by a pet (dog, horse, etc.) and that is to be shown, the hands have to be well tied. If they are not, then you have an audience muttering that the six year old girl, who lives two doors down, could get loose without help.

Hands tied in front? Not as a rule, but there are cases where it would be appropriate, like when the bad guy is taking the captive to a hideout, ties the captive's hands in front, then ties the hands to the saddle horn. When they get to where they are going, untie the hands, then re-tie them behind the captive's back. Stake outs, where the hands are tied in front, then tied above the head to another object (bed post, tree limb, etc.), are OK, too. But if the captive is tied hands front, and gagged, and his captor goes away, and he sits there waiting fro rescue, again, you have an audience looking at the scene, and wondering "Why didn't that dumbass pull his gag down, and untie his hands with his teeth?" Someone needs to have a chat with the script writer. Scenes like that, make the captive look dumber than a brick.

Gags? They should look like they are doing what they are intended to do - keep the captive quiet. But if the captive is being "interrogated," he needs to be gag-free. The gag can also be left off if the captive is out in the middle of nowhere, and there is no one to hear him yell. But if he does yell, the captor can always give him a backhand, then shove a bandana in his mouth, and cleave gag him with another,

Drawscore

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:03 pm
by slackywacky
I remember a perfect scene for this thread from a CSI episode. A woman is kidnapped, they finally rescue her from the trunk of a car. Her hands are tied in front of her, her legs were not even tied and a single strip of duct tape was placed over her mouth as a gag. They open the trunk and the woman is mumbling in her gag, while her hands are right in front of her face. Why the hell she did not pull the gag off is still a mystery to me, and the rope around her wrists was easily undone by using her mouth, once the tape was off.

That is the type of scene that kills it for me. And even decent scenes can be be ruined by part of the bondage being not up to scratch. The scene in Deadly Virtues (om Amazon Prime) is great, she will definitely not escape from that bondage, but the gag is just a cleave gag, no stuffing or whatever, at least is decently tight, so it only distracts a little.

Bottom line is most crappy bondage or gag ruins a scene for me.

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:46 pm
by mrjones2009
Don't know if this counts as ruining a scene but the thing that always gets me is missed opportunities.

A damsel will get snatched and / or held against her will and there will be no or perhaps even worse poor quality tying. A lack of a decent gag is another one. I sometimes find myself thinking why didn't they use chloroform to knock her out during a lot of these scenes.

Also, poor camera work where you can't see what is going on.

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:29 pm
by Gagfan
A bad gag is probably the biggest one for me. Usually the shots are close ups of the damsel's upper body anyways so weak bondage is easy to ignore, but a piss poor gag isnt. I dont even expect a realistic gag, a single strip of tape that is very smoothly and tightly attached to the actresses face or a tight cleave wouldnt do crap in real life, but they at least LOOK nice but when the tape or cloth looks as though it is about to fall off her face it just ruins it.

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:51 pm
by andrewtied
they escape very quick or the struggling is too short. Zhane (Silver Ranger) from Power Rangers in Space is tied up and does escape but does put a brief struggle.


he was tied up by the Psycho Rangers

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:43 pm
by SapphireAsh
I definitely agree with what everyone has said earlier, seems a bad gag and loose bindings seem to be the common theme

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:33 am
by banshee
Having the scene end too soon is what usually ruins a scene for me. An easy example that I can think of is a scene in which selena gomez is tied to a chair in the movie montecarlo (I think I haven't actually watched the film) that is very good but could be much better if just lasted a few minutes instead of seconds.

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:34 pm
by Tapedupcouple
We love when we come across a good mainstream scene especially if it involves a couple. Some of the things that throws us off though is when the hands are tied in front with a gag also anything too violent can ruin it for us as well

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:06 pm
by TapeBondage123
As others have said, bad gags, especially the single strip of duct tape with no mouth stuffing. It’s even worse when I can see the tape sticking out under their nose, like it’s starting to peel off, but they still are “gagged”. Worst of all is when it’s a two inch strip of tape, like a stiff breeze would blow it off their faces. I’m kind of a gag snob :lol:

Re: What ruins bondage scenes in movies/TV for you?

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 3:33 am
by silvertejp590
Anything particularly violent. The Bone Collector for instance has a really good scene, but the fact that it ends in such a grim manner kind of ruins it for me.